Bill Meltzer: Musings and Quick Hits: 2018 NHL Awards, Draft Musings, Therien Podcast

For the most part I would agree and and find "Groups" of players the best answer. Thanks Bill.

Bill can you give your thoughts/opinions on 4 prospects:

Jan Jenik
Milos Roman
Kyle Topping
Alec Regula

would flyers have any interest ?

I like Breggen or Samuelsson or 19. Samuelsson isn't a sexy pick but he seems like a no nonsense all situations D man.

I'm very much in favor of Farabee at 14. I think they need to go forward with that pick.

Would love to see Gudas dealt for a 2nd or 3rd but I think the Morin injury may prevent that from happening for now.

Simmonds rumors are finally picking up I see. Aside from the Bruins blogger mentioning it, I’ve seen a ton of articles linking Simmonds to BOS.

I cant remember Hexy picking a prospect with the baggage of McLeod. He gambled on Konency with his injury history and style of play based on his size, but I cant remember a prospect described as enigmatic. I can see a lot of interest in Miller.

I like Breggen or Samuelsson or 19. Samuelsson isn't a sexy pick but he seems like a no nonsense all situations D man.

I'm very much in favor of Farabee at 14. I think they need to go forward with that pick.

Would love to see Gudas dealt for a 2nd or 3rd but I think the Morin injury may prevent that from happening for now.
- hereticpride

Honestly, I'd rather go with a cheap Schultz-type defenseman than Gudas. I'm beyond done with him.

Re Simmonds to Boston:

I just don't see a deal to be made between the 2 teams. If Simmonds is going to be moved, the 2 best fits I see are Edmonton or Minnesota and the team would need to be one of the 12 that Simmonds, as per his contract, would accept a trade to.

I can see either of:

TO EDM: Simmonds
TO PHI: The 10th overall pick and 3rd round pick, #71, in the upcoming draft

or

TO MIN: Simmonds
TO PHI: Minnesota's 1st round pick, #24, in the upcoming and C/RW Luke Kunin

Simmonds rumors are finally picking up I see. Aside from the Bruins blogger mentioning it, I’ve seen a ton of articles linking Simmonds to BOS.
- arichardson22

i have seen mentions of MIN as well as making a last push with some of the vets they have. Also have seen Trotz as a possible coach there.

Hypothetically speaking, would you trade Simmonds for Panarin? He is signed for one more year at 6M and what would he want after that year. Not sure Columbus would but Simmonds is a Torts type of player for sure.

Outside of the context of the need to have a marquee player to fill "Spectrum 2", it is easy to view the Lindros trade as objectively bad.

No matter what anyone says, that trade was definitely the right move for the franchise at that given point in time, if only because of the arena issue.

Re Simmonds to Boston:

I just don't see a deal to be made between the 2 teams. If Simmonds is going to be moved, the 2 best fits I see are Edmonton or Minnesota and the team would need to be one of the 12 that Simmonds, as per his contract, would accept a trade to.

I can see either of:

TO EDM: Simmonds
TO PHI: The 10th overall pick and 3rd round pick, #71, in the upcoming draft

or

TO MIN: Simmonds
TO PHI: Minnesota's 1st round pick, #24, in the upcoming and C/RW Luke Kunin
- BiggE

I personally would hate to see Simmonds in a Bruins jersey
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Bill can you give your thoughts/opinions on 4 prospects:

Jan Jenik
Milos Roman
Kyle Topping
Alec Regula

would flyers have any interest ?
- rinaldo

Jenik: As the youngest player in the Draft this year -- had he been born one day later, he wouldn't be draft eligible until next year -- you almost have to project him like he's a 2019 candidate. I'd be fine with him as the second-round pick at 50 because he'd apparently be on a first-round path for next year at his current rate.

Roman: Hard to judge because of the injury setbacks but seems to be a pretty good playmaker. Only saw him play one this season on a game stream but he was quick on the rush and had a really nice assist.

Topping: Flyers don't have a third-round pick, which is probably about where I'd slot him, but as a fourth-round candidate, sure. Not big, but he's stocky and pretty smart. As long as you are projecting him as a bottom-six type, and more on the lower end of that probably, I think there could be some value there.

Regula: Second-round mix for me. He was Evan Bouchard's regular partner, and a glue guy on the pairing. Righthanded shot, good size, good first pass, decent mobility and pretty good without the puck. Wouldn't be a sexy pick but is a pretty safe one, and not a zero offensively, either.

Honestly, I'd rather go with a cheap Schultz-type defenseman than Gudas. I'm beyond done with him.
- jmatchett383

Yeah, I'm ready to move Gudas as well and I think he can land them at least a 3rd. I'd then go sign a guy like Nick Holden to be the 6/7 guy and see if Myers can beat him out. I'd also sign an NHL/AHL tweener type who can be the 7th man if Myers starts the season at LHV

You'd either have:
Provy-Ghost
Sanheim-AMac
Hagg-Myers
Holden

or

Provy-Ghost
Sanheim-AMac
Holden-Hagg
the tweener

Hypothetically speaking, would you trade Simmonds for Panarin? He is signed for one more year at 6M and what would he want after that year. Not sure Columbus would but Simmonds is a Torts type of player for sure.
- Daceroni

I would. 26 years old (3 years younger than simmer) also 500+ less NHL games played than Simmonds. 77, 74, 82 point seasons the last 3 years. Contract probably in the 5-6 years @6.5 annually.

Simmonds rumors are finally picking up I see. Aside from the Bruins blogger mentioning it, I’ve seen a ton of articles linking Simmonds to BOS.
- arichardson22

Hexy has always got some asset back from every player under contract with the Flyers. He just doesnt let a free agent leave without getting compensation. It s going to be hard not to get Simmonds take much less then the Oshie deal, I do believe Simmonds gets moved in the next couple of weeks. He mentions how he doesnt want to add significant term with a free agent, certainly reasonable to think this would apply to potential free agents on his roster even though it wont occur to next summer.

Outside of the context of the need to have a marquee player to fill "Spectrum 2", it is easy to view the Lindros trade as objectively bad.

No matter what anyone says, that trade was definitely the right move for the franchise at that given point in time, if only because of the arena issue.
- johndewar

Absolutely, there is no denying this. It's not like the Flyers had a crystal ball and could see the concussion issues in the big guy's future.

Thoughts on his new haircut, Bill?

Re Simmonds to Boston:

I just don't see a deal to be made between the 2 teams. If Simmonds is going to be moved, the 2 best fits I see are Edmonton or Minnesota and the team would need to be one of the 12 that Simmonds, as per his contract, would accept a trade to.

I can see either of:

TO EDM: Simmonds
TO PHI: The 10th overall pick and 3rd round pick, #71, in the upcoming draft

or

TO MIN: Simmonds
TO PHI: Minnesota's 1st round pick, #24, in the upcoming and C/RW Luke Kunin
- BiggE

I would kiss you on the lips if either one happened.

Thoughts on his new haircut, Bill?
- YuenglingJagr

If he doesn't win the Selke, I'm blaming the new do

Yeah, I'm ready to move Gudas as well and I think he can land them at least a 3rd. I'd then go sign a guy like Nick Holden to be the 6/7 guy and see if Myers can beat him out. I'd also sign an NHL/AHL tweener type who can be the 7th man if Myers starts the season at LHV

You'd either have:
Provy-Ghost
Sanheim-AMac
Hagg-Myers
Holden

or

Provy-Ghost
Sanheim-AMac
Holden-Hagg
the tweener
- BiggE

Holden, Sustr, Hickey, etc...yeah, someone like that. Sbisa, if he came under $2.5M.

I would kiss you on the lips if either one happened.
- Glak18

Much rather you just buy me a drink.

Just sayin....

Seriously though, I can absolutely see Chia making a deal like that. He's under enormous pressure to make the playoffs next year and the Oilers are woefully thin on the wings. He's also not very bright.

Hexy has always got some asset back from every player under contract with the Flyers. He just doesnt let a free agent leave without getting compensation. It s going to be hard not to get Simmonds take much less then the Oshie deal, I do believe Simmonds gets moved in the next couple of weeks. He mentions how he doesnt want to add significant term with a free agent, certainly reasonable to think this would apply to potential free agents on his roster even though it wont occur to next summer.
- ravishingone

Every player???

I would kiss you on the lips if either one happened.
- Glak18

Get in line.

Get in line.
- jmatchett383

FFS, just buy me a damned drink.